Re: [twuug] spam that scares me

[Charles Shannon Hendrix <shannon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 07:36:51PM -0500, L. Gallegos wrote:

> On 2 Feb 2003 at 15:30, Charles Shannon Hendrix wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 05:45:03AM -0500, L. Gallegos wrote:
> > 
> > > Uh huh.  That's my point.  If they can't find out which are cellular
> > > phones, then "ignorance is not excuse" seems to apply.  
> > 
> > They believe they have a right to call you.
> 
> And if you believe you have the right to stuff ballot boxes, do you?

No, and I can't imagine where you got that from.

I didn't say I agreed with them, I'm just repeating their argument for
the sake of discussion.

> > It's hard to do much about it though.  By this time, the damage has
> > already been done.
> 
> It may not be a simple task, but when enough people call cell carriers to 
> remove these calls from their bills, the carriers might do something.  

Oh, they do.  I've had to call once and it stopped.

> That does assume consumers will make those complaints.  I don't think it's 
> much of a stretch, since they are paying for the air time.

The problem is the pushed into a corner where they'd be banned from all
phone calls (if all become cell phone numbers), they'll try to make it
legal to solicit anywhere.

The government has not convinced me it feels strongly enough that this
should be stopped.

> Actually, they don't.  They have the right to market, of course, but not 
> to force you to incur the expense of receiving the call or invading your 
> personal space.  

I don't think their right to market should be based only on wether or
not I paid for something, or invading my personal space.

How do you define these things?

I incur expense every time I have to sort the junk from my real mail,
and my mailbox and home are my personal space.

My television is in my home, and some ads are not only invading this
very personal space, some of them are getting really disgusting.

> to spam text messages going to cells, I believe.  People are not going to 
> be willing to pay to receive it, and it's not cheap.

It's not just about $ expense.  Even if they PAID me to use my cell phone,
I should not be solicited.  

I understand how ads are used for a passive broadcast medium like
television and other similar media, but active media requires too much
of my personal time and expense to have ads invade there.


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